Monday, June 21, 2010

An Introduction, Part 1 [Pastors and Practice]

2 comments:

Brad said...

Hello Chris, PJ, and Ben-

Nice blog; I've enjoyed reading a few posts recently as they cross my FB news feed. Couple of thoughts here to you, Ben, in response to your free church post:

1- I agree, church leadership and governance is complex
2- do you think the free church model is applicable to all local churches, regardless of size of participation-- i.e., a house church with 20 active members and a Texas mega-church with 20,000 attendees? if the model is applicable to all, would it look differently in its practice (and if so, how?)
3- pinging off question 2, do you necessarily see significant differences between the megachurch with 20,000 people spread across a metro area, who are led by an elder team, and a presbyterian-style church collection, also with 20,000 people, spread across a state or geographic region?
4- what do you think the style of Paul was? would you say he was presbyterian in his leadership? was he a leader of multiple churches or a visiting encourager?

just some thoughts here this afternoon. would enjoy hearing what you think...

Ben Arbour said...

Brad,

Thanks for commenting.

You've asked some great questions. In fact, the issues you've raised are the same questions which led me to begin writing on this subject. Needless to say, your questions are complex and require more attention than I can presently give in order to thoroughly answer them.

Nonetheless, let me attempt a quick stab at some answers.

1) I do believe that the principals of local church autonomy apply to any church regardless of its size or geographic distribution. I do see a significant difference between a local church that governs itself versus multiple local churches governed by a higher authority. That said,

2) I don't see much difference (functionally, that is) between a mega church with a wide geographic distribution in which the members meet in small groups when compared against presbyterian models of church. It seems that many, in seeking to avoid either episcopalianism or presbyterianism, inadvertently adopt those same functional practices within one local church. To me, this seems inconsistent at best and hypocritical at worst.

But you'll have to stick around and give me an opportunity to tease this out in much more detail.

3) The case of Paul is a unique circumstance. He was an Apostle, which gave him authority not only over one church, but over many churches, indeed, over the Church. I deny that the office of Apostle exists today, so I do not think that Paul's example can be normative for present-day ecclesiology. It's far more complicated than I'm presenting here, but apostolic exemptions make genuine New Testament ecclesiology somewhat tricky.

I hope this helps and I hope to answer your questions in more detail in the coming weeks and months.

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